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Firstly, thanks to everyone who organised the day.

Well, I arrived a little late saturday night due to my bad personal admin. Decided not to sort out my gear until i'd finished work on saturday However, arriving in character as 'Tiny' I got out of the car to have a bottle of spirit thrust into my hands and told to drink. Start of a spiralling downward road for the saturday night

What a fantastic day sunday was. Sooo glad I've got my ass back into the CiA and WW2 scene. Thoroughly enjoyed the planning of the day, dinner in the field was a brilliant idea. It certainly kept the day consistent and wasn't one of those "1hour turns into 2 hour" lunch breaks of the open day style, where everyone seems to put the game to the back of their mind for a while and then have to get back into it after lunch. Even though we weren't rushing our food down, it wasn't dragged out and we were straight back into a firefight after lunch.

Oh, I dont know who it was that was leaning over the wall shouting 'bang' and then shot me, but mate I really didnt hear you and I wasn't havin a go at you for shooting me, i just said you should have shot me straight off. I dont much do the 'bang' rule. Good kill by the way

Only one thing which I was annoyed at is that i missed the blowing of the bridge. I binned the game about 20 mins early, just into the start of the Germans attack to take the bridge back.

I also got massively overkilled by a yank from 15 meters near the end that made my blood boil. I think the same person did it to Tiny and Steiner too. I had to shout hit 5 times before he took his finger off the tigger. Someone needs to get his hearing fixed before he does it to the wrong person and loses his jaw.

It wasnt overkill that got me Lardass. It was the person who was taking aimed shots at my fingers as i held both my hands in the air with my gun pointing to the sky shouting sani. I think the 7yr old schoolgirl giggles showed the mentality, or possibly boordem of the mong who was doing it. It did stop when I shouted some rather choice words to them, who then thought I was Porta. I quickly corrected him and told him who i was. One thing I'm not overly proud about is that I lost my temper and threatened another player. I knew that I was out of order and this is why i left the game and missed the bridge blowing.

So, whoever you are, do everone a favour next time and think about how you could ruin someone else's day by acting like a child.

Other than that one incident I had the best day i've had in a long time and now I need to start collecting some ribbons on my signature. Can anyone tell me how I get em on there?

Tiny

In the final assault on our objective at the bridge all I saw was attacks on the most obvious routes in to where we were. There were no attempts to flank us in the way we had done to take the objective and we were ordered several times to fall back without any reason other than to give the Germans a chance... which they didn't take advantage of at all.

Well... that's not telling the whole story. We initially captured the bridge from one side only - along the wall that pointed down to the bridge (if you get me). However, there were still Allied forces within about 25 metres of the apex of the wall, and we were unable to drive them out and defend the bridge at the same time. From there, the Allied forces built up and sheer weight of numbers eventually told. However, when we were attempting to take the bridge back, the Allied forces were arranged the whole way along the other wall. We attempted to outflank the entire wall, but enemy fire was too strong once we had got around it, so we ended up attacking inside the wall, using up all the remaining pryo we had. By this time, we also encountered some sniper who was behind us (i.e. the German side of the lines), shooting into our regen zone.

It wasnt overkill that got me Lardass. It was the person who was taking aimed shots at my fingers as i held both my hands in the air with my gun pointing to the sky shouting sani. I think the 7yr old schoolgirl giggles showed the mentality, or possibly boordem of the mong who was doing it.

I stand corrected but I think it was probably the same person as I had the same giggling after my 'incident'. I think that got to me more than anything. I can take over kill or any other kind of stupidity just as long as its not deliberate but I'm not certain it was in this case.

Anyway glad to have finally met the other half of the infamous Gregorys and you enjoyed your return.

the infamous Gregorys

Funny that, we seemed to have had summet like that said to us all our lives

Thanks for the comments so far esp. Pete's breakdown (loved his description of 9th SS assaulted the Brit position, under covering fire from the MG42's. 'The CP was quickly taken with small arms and grenades under heavy fire with only light casualties to report'. Ahem - it was completely unoccupied, all the Brits being dug in at the other base!)

OK, my observations: Germans failed to be aggressive enough and exploit opportunities given. Huge amounts of smoke laid were ignored. Once you got across the stream you could have established regen points there. At the main bridge the Germans had a regen - Allies had to regen back at their HQ, so it should have been fairly easy to deplete Allied numbers by death and running out of ammo and then make use of the MGs in the nest to give covering fire as you massed across the bridge. Germans were not outnumbered at any point until they got themselves stuck at the Meuse bridge, when force of numbers made a repulse inevitable - just as at the start of the game when it was 11 Brits vs 26 Germans. Allies were always spread thin across a large area for most of the game - a concerted German effort to breach the river at the sluice crossing would have been easy-peasy. MG support would have made all the difference for covering steam crossings!

Allies largely disregarded orders not to open fire on recce parties - they were to report back enemy movements, that's all. Players are way too content to take entrenched positions and just fire at the enemy - this doesn't achieve anything at all and I concur with the 'open day' comments and there didn't seem to be a lot of 'role playing' in evidence.

This was a really simple game but there is no doubt it was a challenging one. It was the chance for the Germans to prove their metal - on the offensive all day. (Germans: establish base, search out fuel, extract fuel, get to the Meuse bridge. Allies: defend fuel, defend bridge). Getting dirty is part and parcel of the game so it was great to see some players taking it as part of the experience. Bar the lack of snow it was a perfect site for the scenario. Guy and I had planned to run the battle from behind the lines, having information fed to us so we could act on it. This didn't happen and we spent most of the time at the front line leading people in while screaming at them to shift their arses (as did Headshot!). Big firefights are awesome for 10 minutes that's why we used to enjoy open days! But CiA events set out to challenge players - teamwork, tactics, being much more thoughtful, biding your time, taking in the atmosphere. But for some reason (hideous generalisation coming up!) airsofters have to pursue and fire at an enemy, no matter how far away of how pointless to the objective!

So, no great disagreement with Pete's post and completely agree with the 'a chance to really immerse yourself in the period' sentiment.

It was a good day, very boggy site though, glad I had my AK as there where a lot of thompsons about, I think a lo cap day would be good

Steve.D

11 Brits vs 26 Germans..

Don't exaggerate.... we only had 24...

Allies largely disregarded orders not to open fire on recce parties - they were to report back enemy movements, that's all.

#1 I don't remember ever being ordered not to open fire on recce parties...

#2 I do accept that I forgot to report back enemy movements. Much of the time though it wasn't necessary as the person to report to (you Dave) was not far away... but yes I accept that I didn't do it when initially sent out on patrol... but then we didn't see any Germans until the second patrol and it seemed easy enough to attack... especially considering the enemy had actually already fired on our patrol at that point and we had good support from the Americans behind us.

Thanks for the comments so far esp. Pete's breakdown (loved his description of 9th SS assaulted the Brit position, under covering fire from the MG42's. 'The CP was quickly taken with small arms and grenades under heavy fire with only light casualties to report'. Ahem - it was completely unoccupied, all the Brits being dug in at the other base!)

They may have meant to have been but there was definately some there!

Don't exaggerate.... we only had 24

Ah yes, commaders don't count!

They may have meant to have been but there was definately some there!

Nope, I can assure you they were all under my watchful gaze at bunker 1, exactly were they were supposed to be - once you bumped us then we moved out to bunker 2 and awaited an attack. And waited...

Yeah... we had really quite a long time to fill those sandbags up...

especially considering the enemy had actually already fired on our patrol

That's the thing isn't it? Once someone opens fire then it's a free for all!
Recce parties only had to get eyes-on the signs so could do that at quite a distance - assuming of course they could cross the stream!

On a separate note which rather tickled me - you know how players post up pics of themselves in their new shiny kit and the comment is always 'get your kit dirty, far too clean'. Well, no such comments at the end of Sunday!

I was somewhat disappointed at Husky at the lack of MGs - more so at Autumn Mist where they would certainly has changed the German's fortunes. Still, Germans were at the end of a non-existent supply line and heading to the end of a tightening net, so lack of kit can be excused!

Hmmm yes... no .30 cal from Webby... Jay by all accounts left his MG42 at home... No Bren from Barrie and Anne or Pete...

Come on guys!

Oh and the semi auto rule for garands seems to have gone by the by...

Not having lugged the MG42 around yesterday, and playing as a medic, allowed me to step back and look at things from a different viewpoint. One where I wasn't trying to shoot the opposition at the same time.

What did I learn?

1: More aggression is needed. Scream, shout, let the fuckers know we really aren't going to be nice to them. We may be only firing plastic balls at each other, but you don't have to think nice thoughts.

2: When you are dead get your fucking hand up in the air. I would surmise that a good 50% of the players getting shot when dead did not have their hand in the air, so how is the shooter supposed to know they are dead?

3: When you get pinged let the rest of your team know where the sods are! (yup, another excuse to get shouty )

4: Ammo conservation is very, VERY important.

5: If Pete hadn't lost all that weight he probably would have floated

PS Yith. You try lugging an MG42/Bren/.30 around for the day, then tell me you enjoyed it. You won't. They are knackering/unwieldy/uncomfortable to carry around - and my one is half the weight of Del's and Pete's

Lots of chance to shout rather than shoot. Hehe

Jay... I agree... a commander shouldn't be a support gunner (or for that matter a sniper) the roles just don't work well together. (BTW, I'm not sure they should be a medic either. )

However I'm sure you'd have had a few volunteers who would have loved to have a play with an MG42...

As for weight I know that I was looking forward to using Barrie and Anne's Bren as I did at Husky, but because their car was too full it couldn't be brought. A shame

I reckon the trick with support guns is to share the load around. I know that means trusting others with your pride and joy! So I can understand not wanting to do that.... I know I don't like lending out my guns willy-nilly...

2: When you are dead get your fecking hand up in the air. I would surmise that a good 50% of the players getting shot when dead did not have their hand in the air, so how is the shooter supposed to know they are dead?

God that is sooo true.

One person commented that they just got shot more when they put their hand in the air... I hadn't seen it because of the tree they were behind and since I'd seen no response I kept shooting them in the bum...

Stand up... wave your hands... jump up and down... people won't shoot at you then!

Well that was a hard bit of reading agree with most of what has been said (by the germans of course )to me things will always be harder for us germans hence the weapons mp40 range and ammo may be its about time we had a game where we ALL used low cap mags,its bad enough the thompson having greater range never mind loaded with a 400 + mag,also for me when we was defending the bridge there was no way all the dead was walking back to HQ when us germans got shot we had a five min wait out time before we could join the game and NO reload ,so the walk and the wait for the allies should have been around 8 to 10 mins and i know that didnt happen mind you did you use the gliders And the over kill there is no need never mind the "i dont take chances" you hear when youve been shot to shit at close range,but all in all great day good to see old friends and make new ones Sgt.Heide, great to play along side the 9th SS. MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU ALL

We did have 2 MG42's and they were used. There also most certainly were enemy in the position we assaulted at the start, not a huge amount and they may not have supposed to have been there but they were there and shooting at us. It was my MG42 that Del used to hose the allied attack across the first river.

Kermit is spot on about the machineguns, they weigh a ton and it was very hard to deploy them correctly on the terrain. They are also totally unsuitable for recce patrols! The same applied for the assaults on the fuel dumps, where, initially, I took my MG42 with me but couldn't establish a proper base of fire and get deployed because the point where we attempted to cross was totally bare arse with a woodline occupied by quite a few allies who poured fire on us as we attempted to get into some cover. We got wiped out and had to trudge back through a bog to regen', only to return for more of the same. I assure that there was lots of aggression, shouting, firepower and grenades going in at this point, it just didn't get us anywhere, because we could go no further to outflank and had no cover. Our MP40's were outranged significantly and it just turned into stalemate, many times I wished I'd bought my K98! Whenever we moved to probe the line for weaknesses, the enemy just moved along to counter us, with the advantage of having good cover. It''s a pity really, as we had trained hard to be aggressive and push forward and ended up getting killed in a no win situation, despite some nice teamwork, with little ad hoc groups of Germans getting together at regen and trying to push forward.

i was put in charge of a section by yith, the men it it were awsome, i only hope i did them proud with my style of leadership, they did everything asked of them and did it well.
we were tasked by chommers with moving to the crossing point near the road as there were reports from the americans that a small group of germans had established a beach head on our side of the river, on arrival we saw a hand full of germans firing on an american section. at this point we were spotted and engaged by the enemy. the men of the oxf and books moved into extended line and i led them forward under fairly heavy fire, after a few yards i was running out of ammo for the mp40 i charged with the 1911 as a diversion, the men of my section took advantage and overwhelmed the enemy , ( not sure how the yanks felt about us stealing there thunder but it was a text book assualt and fight through) . after being mediced i was about to form the men into a defencive perimiter on the base of the crossing point but they had already done it( well done lads nice work) . an american patrol was sent out to report and recieve orders, none came so we held untill relived agianst some very accurate harrasing fire from the germans just on the other bank. this was obviously a diversion and in no time chommers was there telling us that we needed to get back to the small stone bridge as it was under heavy attack.

on reaching the bridge there seemed to be every allied soldier waiting for the german assualt . on seeing my section arrive yith told me to " get over the bridge" this i did, running and firing like a madman i was the first over the bridge, through the bog and one third of the way up the hill . i grenaded the mortar pit then got hit only to be immediatly mediced by panther who was a few feet to my right. up the hill, firing left and right , by now the position was rolled up and we brought the mortar away.

yith, myself and waladik the deployed the morter , we got 4 germans and one yank ( ) . i got one pistol kill and one bang kill . i personally didnt witness any unsporting play or over kill(one german did blind fire on yith and i but he was a new player and after we explained the rule he was very apologetic). i did repeatedly shoot one of the german lads earlier in the day but it was due to the fact there was a live german using him as cover and i
wasnt aiming for the dead guy but the hop on the mp40 is shit and the bbs just kept peeling slightly left onto the poor sod. i did apologise during and after the insident . i thought it was a great day if a little disjointed at times but thats what war is like. big thanks to CIA and F+O . it was one of my best airsoft performances for a year. great game. the men of the oxf and bucks should be proud of themselves.loved the piro at the end.